Drew Goddard, Drew Z. Greenberg, Rebecca Rand Kirschner
& Jane Espenson
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Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:31:38 2002)
Jane: No. You TOTALLY rock. I just keep trying to live
up to the fine example you set. And, also, you tell me
when to get lunch.
Drew Goddard: Oh, please. Kick my ***, my ***. I'd like
to see you try. You, me, the parking lot, after school.
Come alone. No minions ('cause, yeah, THEY could kick
my ***, easy).
Allyson: Oh, gracious. Look what you started. You can't
kick Fury, he'll hate me, and I can't live with the guilt.
But I do like the part about the queue. Keep that going.
Drew Goddard says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:27:36 2002)
Okay -- I gotta go back to work. Thanks everybody, that
was the most fun I've had in quite some time.
Minions, I love you guys.
Drew Goddard says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:23:27 2002)
Guys, all kidding aside --
My Minions could beat the living crap out of everyone
else's minions.
I swear to friggin' God.
Jane Espenson says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:21:08 2002)
I'm typing this on DrewZ's computer, but it's me, Jane.
Sorry, LovelyBoard... didn't realize you weren't referring
to me. DIdn't mean to stir up all this pro and anti "kitten"
sentiment, since I don't know what that is.
And, btw, doesn't DrewZ rock? That was such a brilliant
statement!
Whoo-hoo!
Drew Goddard says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:16:28 2002)
Yo! Drew Z. be dropping science on their asses! But I
bet he trucks with that Espenson wench with all her fancy
book-learnin' and what have you.
Hey Z. and Esp! We don' take kindly to yo' sloppy phonetics
and phonology round these parts. Ya'll so dumb, you thought
the rules of syntax was decided by the I.R.S.!
Oh!
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:06:13 2002)
Princess of Darkness: We're writers. We don't have anything
to do with promo pictures. That's why we can't answer
you.
Web Warlock: in my experience, people who cite the dead
lesbian cliche in reference to Tara do not understand
the cliche itself. Presentations of lesbians in film and
television have historically presented these women as
troubled, twisted and desperate. They were not accepted
by society, and the only appropriate ending for them was
either to be killed or to commit suicide, thus denying
these characters any chance at happiness and, also, providing
for the audience a rather clean solution to an embarrassing
problem -- how to get rid of the lesbian. In the character
of Tara, we carefully constructed a young woman who was
vibrant, alive, self-sufficient, funny, sexy, compassionate,
strong and learning to stand on her own two feet. We wanted
you to love her so that when we took her away, the audience
would feel her absence as something painful, just as Willow
did, and absolutely NOT as a relief, as the cliche holds.
The character was, in my opinion, in stark contrast to
and the exact opposite of the old lesbian cliche. In characterizing
Tara's death as yet another in the string of cliched lesbian
deaths, you indicate that you do not see Tara as anything
but a lesbian, you do not see her as the unique character
she was, but rather just as a woman who had sex with women,
and, in doing so, you reveal your own homophobia, your
own prejudice and, more than anything else, your own lack
of understanding of what we did with that character. Thanks
for the opportunity to say so.
Jane Espenson says:
(Tue Oct 15 00:00:00 2002)
Lovely Board,
I didn't jump on Warlock because his opinion was different
than mine, I jumped on him because he was *wrong*. The
ratings are solid!
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:56:03 2002)
Sage -- collect the money on the bet. There was some gollum
in the history of Gnarl.
Clarel -- we probably should've been clearer, yes.
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:53:11 2002)
Hey, where did Web Warlock go? Don't let that Espenson
bully you -- we got your back.
Here, I'll help get you started:
Yo! Espenson! Linguistics!?! You couldn't conjugate your
way outta a paper sack. My grandma has better transitive
participle usage than you, and my grandma be dead!
Oh my god!
REbecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:51:11 2002)
WebWarlock are you out there????
You shouldn't run in fear from Jane. She is only four
or five feet tall...don't be so afraid...Come on Warlock,
make Drew Goddard's eyeballs bulge out... WebWarlo-o-ock,
come out and pla-a-a-ay!!!
Rebecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:43:07 2002)
ULTIE DREW...
Girl! She so did! Mmm-mmm-mmm-mm-mm. (Picture me: also
with wide eyes snapping my neck from side to side with
my left eyebrow raised...imagine that my legs are crossed
but guy-style so that my left ankle is resting comfortably
on my my reight knee...picture my nostrils flaring and
my arms waving up and down, picture me writing this message
witht the tip of my nose...pecking pecking like some godawful
endangered bird...a hunter is right behind me and I keep
pecking, pecking right into your temples...peck..peck...peck...)Jane
Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:42:23 2002)
I meant I'm *not* familiar with it.
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:41:47 2002)
Hi Phil PHuD,
Sorry, I'm familiar with that of which you speak. But
it sounds cool... I do generally like that sort of thing.
I better go now before some warlock gets my dander all
riled again.
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:39:47 2002)
Hi Clairel. We didn't intend Spike's motives to be unclear.
He kept saying "Buffy should get what he deserves."
And then when he gets the soul you're all supposed to
go Ooooo, now I get what he meant!!!
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:38:42 2002)
Hi DrLloyd11. I am an anti-Chomskyite. But I bet WebWarlock
likes Chomsky.
I can tell.
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:37:40 2002)
Uh oh. Did Jane just drop a master's degree in Linguistics
dis into the mix? Ohhhhh snap! (Picture me with my hand
up to my mouth and my eyes all wide.)
REbecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:35:29 2002)
HOLY BANANAS JANE....
You're pulling out your Linguistics cred....when do you
mention the Zima story...? ...wowzers.
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:31:11 2002)
Hi all! I'm back.
Hey, Web Warlock. I'm sitting 0 feet from where Buffy
is written. We are under the impression that our ratings
are just fine! We are a show that attracts advertisers
in search of a very specific demo -- not just age but
lifestyle, income level, etc. These advertisers seem very
happy. And I don't need my master's degree in Linguistics
to figure it out.
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:28:17 2002)
DeM -- Hey, playing with dolls and masquerading on the
boards sounds JUST LIKE a social life to me. It's alllllll
relative.
rebecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:20:20 2002)
Drew,
What the bananas are you talking about? I have reached
my limit...
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:20:13 2002)
Allyson -- how could you possibly think UPN could screw
it up? I mean, have you seen our promos so far this season?
In my book, "U.P.N." spells "genius."
And don't you find it interesting that Jane is dodging
the making out with me question?
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:16:50 2002)
And as long as we're doing questions, I heard I was dating
someone. Who? I'm desperate to know, my Saturday nights
have been a bit slow as of late.
Also, Clem, what do you have in store for me this season?
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:15:39 2002)
Um, Rebecca?
What the hell are you talking about?
Rebecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:11:36 2002)
WRITERS (and Bronzers)
Good News!!! Chris B. said UPN is putting up her site
for the sake of us and the show...I'm not sure if it will
still be her webname or something connected to UPN....more
info to follow
REbecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:09:35 2002)
JANE
PLEASE
FORGIVE
ME....
PLEASE
STOP
CRYING....
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:09:04 2002)
Since Jane is answering questions, I might as well ask
a few.
Jane, what's in store for Clem this season?
Also, why do you keep trying to make out with me?
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 23:01:08 2002)
Can't seen to leave when there are interesting questions/praise.
In answer to a question...
Camden Toy, guy in costume, was indeed also the voice
of Gnarl. Also... he was the lead Gentleman! Cool, huh?
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:58:14 2002)
I just tried too... we've let, like twelve people know
about the site and it's already overloaded?! That's terrible!
The computer is a moron!
Rebecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:56:49 2002)
JANEEEEY!!
Please open your door. I'm sorry I got on your case. Just
don't want to get the lawyers on our case.....I am sorry
I pissed you off.....Also Chris B. said the site may be
taken down temporarily because it is too "sensitive"...I'm
going to his office now. (sorry Bronzers to be using your
space for our lame e-mailing...but do keep checking this
site because something about Cassie will come up soon)
PLEASE OPEN YOUR DOOR]..I will give you praise and snacks.
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:56:30 2002)
Cashmere? Here's the wet noodle. Start lashing.
Big hellos to the rest of you.
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:55:33 2002)
Is Cassie
Newton one of my Minions? If not, then why are we
talking about her?
I mean, for the love of Christ...
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:52:57 2002) cassienewton.com
That's my last word.
REbecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:52:26 2002)
Drew are you there????
Either Drew will do. can someone explain to everyone how
to look her site up.
All the best to all out there....
XXX rrk
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:51:46 2002)
Thanks for all the praise! It was a fun ep to write!
And now I've gotta run off... think there might be actual
writin' to do!
Love! Jane
REbecca says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:50:21 2002)
Jane..
are you pissed? I hope you understand that we're all just
a little touchy about this..
The WHOLE POINT HERE IS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT CASSIE BEFORE THEY WATCH THE TRIBUTE...and her website
is the first step...
By the way, this episode/tribute airs TOMORROW.....hope
it is enjoyed...
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:50:04 2002)
No, Allyson, that's not it, but that's a nice website,
too. This one is a bit more serious, about dear Cassie
Newton.
Angel Rain, I can indeed confirm that I, too, have heard
that rumor... oh, wait, Jane already gave a serious answer.
Oh, poop.
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:48:56 2002)
I can deny that SMG played the dead girls.
Rebecca K. says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:46:32 2002)
Jane.
I don't mean to call you out in front of everyone, but
I don't think you should joke around about this. Mrs.
Newton actually called Tamara this morning, I'll fill
you in later, but the point is...for now we're just supposed
to act like it's something fictional....I'll come talk
in person soon but my mom's on the phone.
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:46:03 2002)
Wait -- I'm confused. Are we seriously not talking about
me?
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:45:35 2002)
Ooh. Thanks tiggy! I come here to lay in my subtle hinting
and then I get drive-by praise. Cool.
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:44:39 2002)
Drew, I'm studying you RIGHT NOW!! (Thank GOODNESS for
secret webcam technology!!)
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:43:10 2002)
I didn't think we were even gonna say "web site."
I thought we were gonna come on here and pretend to be
regular poster and then talk about this sad teen Cassie
that we know, and then let the magic happen.
Rebecca K. says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:42:32 2002)
I don't know how much you guys have heard about this next
episode. I don't want to spoil anything but the site I
think you should look at is called CassieNewton.com. I'm
awfully bad about web stuff but this is worth a look.
Drew, Drew, Jane... has anyone talked about this already?
Am I just rehashing stuff that's out there. I don't really
know the protocol on this.....
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:40:54 2002)
Jane, I think we're still mysteriously hinting at it.
I think the talking about it starts soon.
Rebecca, I think it's time to fire up some more of those
kosher cocktail weenies.
Drew Goddard says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:40:27 2002)
I believe they're talking about the Minions of Ultimate
Drew website. Everyone should be studying me.
Jane Espenson says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:39:11 2002)
What are we talking about? That website thing?
Rebecca K. says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:38:24 2002)
Hey Drew and hello all.
Drew Z. Greenberg says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:36:09 2002)
Hello, Fans. I'm here with Rebecca, too. She's promising
me a makeover as we speak. Just a little insight into
the group dynamics here at the Buffy office. And, yes,
have you seen the website?
Rebecca K. says:
(Mon Oct 14 22:32:56 2002)
If anyone's out there, I want to let you know that there's
a website you should see before you watch tomorrow night's
episode. Has anyone discovered it yet?
